Yes, I am just personally tired of people being morality police and
offering their opinions on everything. A more constructive approach is to
do something to help the situation. "Friends" of developers and developers
can try to leverage their contacts to encourage these companies that
managed to survive, or even copyright holders of defunct companies to make
their very old titles freeware or for sale at a reasonable cost and offer
them for download legitimately on their websites. Or at least just inform
the list the developer may be willing to help in the first place instead of
asking about a website's "distribution rights" when the answer to the
question is obvious and then getting into the issues of "piracy".
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 1:04 PM, richard g <Ambassador@[redacted].comwrote:
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> My apologies if I ruffled any feathers, "totalimposter".
>
> We agree that opinions are of no value here. We can wish all sorts of
> things with regard to how copyright law works, but the best thing that
> could be said for so-called "abandonware" is that it's a grey area, perhaps
> only because the copyright owner is no longer in business to defend their
> rights. If you have links to any court ruling allowing republishing of
> copyrighted works in that manner, it would be much more helpful than, as
> you say, "pushing your moral perspective on the list."
>
> The key point here is that SuperCard isn't "abandonware". All rights were
> transferred to the current owner, Solutions Etc. which very much remains in
> business and is quite actively selling and enhancing the product.
>
> It's also worth noting that the OP wasn't asking for pirate links, but
> simply for a way to obtain a specific version.
>
> While the OP's ID here isn't clear, I believe I've already corresponded
> with him previously on his. If it's the same person, he's someone I've
> known for many years, an above-board person simply looking for a solution
> to a problem. But as a professional developer himself I'm pretty sure he's
> only looking for a way to solve the problem that's unquestionably legal, so
> the Mac Garden site probably wouldn't interest him anyway.
>
> If anyone here has a single user license they can sell, that may be a
> solution.
>
> Alternatively, the OP is welcome to write me and I'll see what I may have
> among my licenses or other options with the consent of the publisher.
>
>
> --- In HyperCard-Mailing-List, DTS <daretospam@...> wrote:
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> > On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 12:23 PM, richard g <Ambassador@...>wrote:
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> > >
> > > I appreciate your interest in my personal opinion, but however
> > > interesting it may be it's of no consequence. The only thing that
> matters
> > > is the legal standing, which my opinion can't alter.
> > > ....
> > >
> > > So my hope is there's something to provide some comfort that this list
> > > hasn't descended to the level of a common pirate board.
> > >
> >
> > I do not think he is that interested in your opinion. If you are not a
> > legal entity representing the company then there is no need to push your
> > moral perspective on the list. The original poster is clearly looking for
> > out of print software which may be classified as abandonware which is an
> > evolving concept that again does not need to be argued here unless you
> are
> > a legal representative.
> >
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