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[HC] interesting product video
(Msg 1 of 16)
coiin <coiin@[redacted].net>
Wednesday, 18-Nov-2015 20:42 GMT
[HC] interesting product video
(Msg 2 of 16)
i.script <i.script@[redacted].com>
Thursday, 19-Nov-2015 09:55 GMT
Everytime I watch movies like this one or the one regarding Apple's
knowledge navigator this sad feeling takes over. What a pity Hypercard
didn't survive till the "mobile age". The idea of cards and stacks feel so
natural as UI metaphor for touch based devices.

There is no technical reason that we have to resign a contemporary
Hypercard. It's all about industrial interest driven by the idea the
technological companies have to govern us not to mess up our devices.

From a technology of empowerment to technologies of governance and
regulation. Sad, sad.

Tom

On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Colin Holgate coiin@[redacted].net[HyperCard] <HyperCard-Mailing-List> wrote:

>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5mWHQKsq4Y
>
>
>



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[HC] interesting product video
(Msg 3 of 16)
alain_farmer <alain_farmer@[redacted].com>
Thursday, 19-Nov-2015 11:18 GMT
Hello Tom and y'all,
I have noticed, more than once, that information technologies seem to be headed in a HyperCard-like direction.
Take noSQL databases, like Mongo for example :
* they are a collection (stack) of documents (cards).* each document/card can contain any field (or any part) that other cards don't share.
HyperCard really-excelled at finding information quickly.* this is what Mongo is known-for too.* mongo uses linux's blazzingly-fast "find" command, not unlike HyperCard's approach.
It's more-and-more about content and information these days.HyperCard was often referred-to as an "information appliance".
As the web and so-on has become mainstream, 'ordinary' people, aka non-geeks,have flooded the field, wishing to accomplish feats like they see on the web,but don't have the time, nor the inclination, to become "computer scientists" to do it.
While they are very-criticized, Interactive Development Environments (IDE) appeal to LOTS of people.The people criticinzing IDEs, the most, are the programmers of-course, aka the priest of the IT temple!
As many have pointed-out on this list, over the years, HyperCard invented the WWW long-before the web surfaced from utter obscurity.Card-fulls of content, with the ability to click on hypertext links to associatively GO to referenced cards .. sound familiar?
As you point-out, Tom: What a pity Hypercard didn't survive till the "mobile age".Full-blown spreadsheets, and other "serious" software, are not-at-all appropriate fo these tiny devices.HyperCard's simplicity, one screen-full at a time, single-click ... would have been GREAT in our present time.

If you know me at all, you know :* I'm the guy who crafted the MetaCard-based clone of HyperCard, called "FreeGUI".
* I'm the guy who was pitching that we should make our own open-source Hypercard, called "FreeCard".* some of us proposed to program it, in C or in Java, but my suggestion was to do it with web-technologies like XML.
The project has faded, given our lack of consensus, and other factors too,
but, quite-frankly, I think that the current trends are headed in the direction that I proposed:
* open-source* editable source (text), not binary (which is faster but much-harder to deal-with than text)* non-proprietary
* based on open-standards: HTML5, CSS, Javascript, XML, RDF, SVG ...
Scripting is still BIG, and even bigger than it was, back in the late-80's.Scripting languages have greatly-elvolved, and devolved, in MANY ways.Javascript is King, these days, in terms of userbase, available code, etc.Danny Goodman, a HyperCard celebrity, has been a javascript-fan since the 90's.
My point, I guess, is that we should make another attempt at it, to create FreeCard.The timing is right, the technologies have matured, etc, etc.
Not a "clone" of HyperCard, this time, as much as I am still endeared to HyperCard.We have other horizons now.
With NodeJS, for example, we can create a full-fledged web-server with one line of code.Btw, nodejs code can be performed within Livecode & MetaCard, with the "shell" function.With FreeCard, we would leverage Nodejs, natively!
One-click virtual-server, as powerful as Apache, scripted with one-line of code. Interested?
Browse a bit on the subject of "Nodejs" ... you will see just how much power we can harness.
Like a pheonix, we can rise from the ashes and soar once again!  :-)

Alain

From: "Tom Fuerstner i.script@[redacted].com[HyperCard]" <HyperCard-Mailing-List>
To: HyperCard-Mailing-List
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 4:55 AM
Subject: Re: [HC] interesting product video

  Everytime I watch movies like this one or the one regarding Apple's knowledge navigator this sad feeling takes over. What a pity Hypercard didn't survive till the "mobile age". The idea of cards and stacks feel so natural as UI metaphor for touch based devices. 
There is no technical reason that we have to resign a contemporary Hypercard. It's all about industrial interest driven by the idea the technological companies have to govern us not to mess up our devices. 
From a technology of empowerment to technologies of governance and regulation. Sad, sad.
Tom
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Colin Holgate coiin@[redacted].net[HyperCard] <HyperCard-Mailing-List> wrote:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5mWHQKsq4Y





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[HC] interesting product video
(Msg 4 of 16)
daretospam <daretospam@[redacted].com>
Thursday, 19-Nov-2015 19:03 GMT
I wish programmers like Bill Atkinson dominated today's management of OS
development so these philosophies of giving end users more creative power
over their computers had continued to develop and thrive.

On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 3:18 AM, Alain Farmer alain_farmer@[redacted].com[HyperCard] <HyperCard-Mailing-List> wrote:

>
>
> Hello Tom and y'all,
>
> I have noticed, more than once, that information technologies seem to be
> headed in a HyperCard-like direction.
>
> Take noSQL databases, like Mongo for example :
> * they are a collection (stack) of documents (cards).
> * each document/card can contain any field (or any part) that other cards
> don't share.
>
> HyperCard really-excelled at finding information quickly.
> * this is what Mongo is known-for too.
> * mongo uses linux's blazzingly-fast "find" command, not unlike
> HyperCard's approach.
>
> It's more-and-more about content and information these days.
> HyperCard was often referred-to as an "information appliance".
>
> As the web and so-on has become mainstream, 'ordinary' people, aka
> non-geeks,
> have flooded the field, wishing to accomplish feats like they see on the
> web,
> but don't have the time, nor the inclination, to become "computer
> scientists" to do it.
>
> While they are very-criticized, Interactive Development Environments (IDE)
> appeal to LOTS of people.
> The people criticinzing IDEs, the most, are the programmers of-course, aka
> the priest of the IT temple!
>
> As many have pointed-out on this list, over the years,
> HyperCard invented the WWW long-before the web surfaced from utter
> obscurity.
> Card-fulls of content, with the ability to click on hypertext links to
> associatively GO to referenced cards .. sound familiar?
>
> As you point-out, Tom: What a pity Hypercard didn't survive till the
> "mobile age".
> Full-blown spreadsheets, and other "serious" software, are not-at-all
> appropriate fo these tiny devices.
> HyperCard's simplicity, one screen-full at a time, single-click ... would
> have been GREAT in our present time.
>
> If you know me at all, you know :
> * I'm the guy who crafted the MetaCard-based clone of HyperCard, called
> "FreeGUI".
> * I'm the guy who was pitching that we should make our own open-source
> Hypercard, called "FreeCard".
> * some of us proposed to program it, in C or in Java, but my suggestion
> was to do it with web-technologies like XML.
>
> The project has faded, given our lack of consensus, and other factors too,
> but, quite-frankly, I think that the current trends are headed in the
> direction that I proposed:
>
> * open-source
> * editable source (text), not binary (which is faster but much-harder to
> deal-with than text)
> * non-proprietary
> * based on open-standards: HTML5, CSS, Javascript, XML, RDF, SVG ...
>
> Scripting is still BIG, and even bigger than it was, back in the late-80's.
> Scripting languages have greatly-elvolved, and devolved, in MANY ways.
> Javascript is King, these days, in terms of userbase, available code, etc..
> Danny Goodman, a HyperCard celebrity, has been a javascript-fan since the
> 90's.
>
> My point, I guess, is that we should make another attempt at it, to create
> FreeCard.
> The timing is right, the technologies have matured, etc, etc.
>
> Not a "clone" of HyperCard, this time, as much as I am still endeared to
> HyperCard.
> We have other horizons now.
>
> With NodeJS, for example, we can create a full-fledged web-server with one
> line of code.
> Btw, nodejs code can be performed within Livecode & MetaCard, with the
> "shell" function.
> With FreeCard, we would leverage Nodejs, natively!
>
> One-click virtual-server, as powerful as Apache, scripted with one-line of
> code. Interested?
> Browse a bit on the subject of "Nodejs" ... you will see just how much
> power we can harness.
>
> Like a pheonix, we can rise from the ashes and soar once again! :-)
>
> Alain
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* "Tom Fuerstner i.script@[redacted].com[HyperCard]" <
> HyperCard-Mailing-List>
> *To:* HyperCard-Mailing-List
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 19, 2015 4:55 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [HC] interesting product video
>
>
> Everytime I watch movies like this one or the one regarding Apple's
> knowledge navigator this sad feeling takes over. What a pity Hypercard
> didn't survive till the "mobile age". The idea of cards and stacks feel so
> natural as UI metaphor for touch based devices.
>
> There is no technical reason that we have to resign a contemporary
> Hypercard. It's all about industrial interest driven by the idea the
> technological companies have to govern us not to mess up our devices.
>
> From a technology of empowerment to technologies of governance and
> regulation. Sad, sad.
>
> Tom
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Colin Holgate coiin@[redacted].net> [HyperCard] <HyperCard-Mailing-List> wrote:
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5mWHQKsq4Y
>
>
>
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[HC] interesting product video
(Msg 5 of 16)
joncooper <joncooper@[redacted].au>
Friday, 20-Nov-2015 00:29 GMT
I was amazed to hear Bill Atkinson comparing software development to art, near the end of the video.

"Whatever mood or feeling an artist has when they're making their art comes through in the product. And even though you don't meet directly the people who painted that painting, you know something about them, from the feel of the painting. That happens with a program, too. I hope that HyperCard will show some of the openness that I'm feeling."


I know some will regard that as being a bit too "touchy feely", but I think he makes a valid point.


Jonathan Cooper
www.doctordada.com http://www.doctordada.com/


On 20/11/2015, at 6:03 AM, DTS daretospam@[redacted].com[HyperCard] <HyperCard-Mailing-List> wrote:

> I wish programmers like Bill Atkinson dominated today's management of OS
> development so these philosophies of giving end users more creative power
> over their computers had continued to develop and thrive.




[HC] interesting product video
(Msg 6 of 16)
jpalme <jpalme@[redacted].se>
Friday, 20-Nov-2015 17:46 GMT
Hypercard is not dead. There is a copy of hypercard, which is very similar to Apple's hypercard. I had a rather complex stack with lots of scripts, and it only took me a couple of hours to get it working in this hypercard-copy. The copy was earlier named "Revolution" but has changed its name to "Livecode".

On 19 nov 2015, at 10.55, Tom Fuerstner i.script@[redacted].com[HyperCard] wrote:

>
>
> Everytime I watch movies like this one or the one regarding Apple's knowledge navigator this sad feeling takes over. What a pity Hypercard didn't survive till the "mobile age". The idea of cards and stacks feel so natural as UI metaphor for touch based devices.
>
> There is no technical reason that we have to resign a contemporary Hypercard. It's all about industrial interest driven by the idea the technological companies have to govern us not to mess up our devices.
>
> From a technology of empowerment to technologies of governance and regulation. Sad, sad.
>
> Tom
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Colin Holgate coiin@[redacted].net[HyperCard] <HyperCard-Mailing-List> wrote:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5mWHQKsq4Y
>
>
>
>
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for more info see URL: http://www.dsv.su.se/jpalme/
[HC] interesting product video
(Msg 7 of 16)
nospamformeSVP <nospamformeSVP@[redacted].com>
Monday, 23-Nov-2015 00:36 GMT
Watching this video made me think that I do not really want another
programming environment or an IDE. I do not want to deploy programs or
manage them as entities separate from my data. If I wanted to do that then
I would use Python. I just want to be able to program my own data. That
is what HyperCard seemed to do.

I use Evernote for storing more and more of my data and I think something
like Evernote on steroids is what I really want.

Evernote is a cloud-based note taking application that has a web interface
as well as PC, Mac, IOS and Android apps. It has notebooks (stacks?) and
notes (cards?). Evernote notes may contain text, images, audio files,
limited structured data, .pdf files, links to other Evernote notes,
hyper-links to web content, and probably lots more stuff. You just edit
your data using one of the user interfaces/apps (web, PC, etc..) and
Evernote background syncs the changes back to their servers so that all of
the other interfaces/apps see the result.

I would like the same sort of transparent, network-wide treatment of data
except that the notes and notebooks would be more like cards and stacks.

Evernote's business model is that you pay for the cloud service, not the
apps, and I would be fine with that. I do not want to have to deploy my
own HC apps, I just want to edit them (as data) on whatever device I have
in my hand and know that they will also show up on any other device I
happen to use now or in the future.

Maybe LiveCode HTML will do this? I don't think so as LC still seems to be
in the app deployment business rather than in the data management business.

Don.



On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Jacob Palme jpalme@[redacted].suse [HyperCard] <
HyperCard-Mailing-List> wrote:

> Hypercard is not dead. There is a copy of hypercard, which is very similar
> to Apple's hypercard. I had a rather complex stack with lots of scripts,
> and it only took me a couple of hours to get it working in this
> hypercard-copy. The copy was earlier named "Revolution" but has changed its
> name to "Livecode".
>
> On 19 nov 2015, at 10.55, Tom Fuerstner i.script@[redacted].com[HyperCard]
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Everytime I watch movies like this one or the one regarding Apple's
> knowledge navigator this sad feeling takes over. What a pity Hypercard
> didn't survive till the "mobile age". The idea of cards and stacks feel so
> natural as UI metaphor for touch based devices.
> >
> > There is no technical reason that we have to resign a contemporary
> Hypercard. It's all about industrial interest driven by the idea the
> technological companies have to govern us not to mess up our devices.
> >
> > From a technology of empowerment to technologies of governance and
> regulation. Sad, sad.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Colin Holgate coiin@[redacted].net> [HyperCard] <HyperCard-Mailing-List> wrote:
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5mWHQKsq4Y
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thomas Fuerstner
> >
> >
> >
> > Vertraulichkeitshinweis:
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> >
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> Professor emeritus Jacob Palme <jpalme@[redacted].suse> (Stockholm University)
> for more info see URL: http://www.dsv.su.se/jpalme/
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[HC] interesting product video
(Msg 8 of 16)
jacque <jacque@[redacted].com>
Monday, 23-Nov-2015 02:39 GMT
You can do everything you mention with LiveCode, it doesn't require that
you separate the data from the interface. It's usually considered easier
and more reliable to do that, but you certainly don't have to and you
can use it exactly as you used HyperCard.

You can also implement a cloud service as you describe with very little
code. LiveCode can read and display a stack over the internet with a
single line of script. Saving the stack back to the server would require
a short handler. There is a considerable "wow" factor the first time you
see a stack load and display over the internet; you don't need to save
it to disk for that, it just appears.

Jacque

On 11/22/2015 6:36 PM, nospam forme nospamformeSVP@[redacted].com[HyperCard]
wrote:
> Watching this video made me think that I do not really want another
> programming environment or an IDE. I do not want to deploy programs or
> manage them as entities separate from my data. If I wanted to do that then
> I would use Python. I just want to be able to program my own data. That
> is what HyperCard seemed to do.
>
> I use Evernote for storing more and more of my data and I think something
> like Evernote on steroids is what I really want.
>
> Evernote is a cloud-based note taking application that has a web interface
> as well as PC, Mac, IOS and Android apps. It has notebooks (stacks?) and
> notes (cards?). Evernote notes may contain text, images, audio files,
> limited structured data, .pdf files, links to other Evernote notes,
> hyper-links to web content, and probably lots more stuff. You just edit
> your data using one of the user interfaces/apps (web, PC, etc..) and
> Evernote background syncs the changes back to their servers so that all of
> the other interfaces/apps see the result.
>
> I would like the same sort of transparent, network-wide treatment of data
> except that the notes and notebooks would be more like cards and stacks.
>
> Evernote's business model is that you pay for the cloud service, not the
> apps, and I would be fine with that. I do not want to have to deploy my
> own HC apps, I just want to edit them (as data) on whatever device I have
> in my hand and know that they will also show up on any other device I
> happen to use now or in the future.
>
> Maybe LiveCode HTML will do this? I don't think so as LC still seems to be
> in the app deployment business rather than in the data management business.
>
> Don.


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Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque@[redacted].comHyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
[HC] interesting product video
(Msg 9 of 16)
nospamformeSVP <nospamformeSVP@[redacted].com>
Monday, 23-Nov-2015 15:22 GMT
> You can also implement a cloud service as you describe with very little
> code. LiveCode can read and display a stack over the internet with a
> single line of script. Saving the stack back to the server would require
> a short handler.

Good stuff, but I do not want to implement my own cloud service, I want to
buy a service from a company that knows what they are doing!

If what you say is true then I hope that somebody, maybe LC themselves,
will buy a LC license and sell a Hypercard-like cloud service.

Don.
[HC] interesting product video
(Msg 10 of 16)
jacque <jacque@[redacted].com>
Monday, 23-Nov-2015 22:43 GMT
On 11/23/2015 9:22 AM, nospam forme nospamformeSVP@[redacted].com[HyperCard]
wrote:
>> You can also implement a cloud service as you describe with very little
>> code. LiveCode can read and display a stack over the internet with a
>> single line of script. Saving the stack back to the server would require
>> a short handler.
>
> Good stuff, but I do not want to implement my own cloud service, I want to
> buy a service from a company that knows what they are doing!

:) Well, anyone who has a server (which is anyone with a web site) has
all they need. I shouldn't have called it a "cloud service" per se, it's
just remote retrieval of a file from any server. But if you don't have
access to a server then yes, you'd need use someone else's.

>
> If what you say is true then I hope that somebody, maybe LC themselves,
> will buy a LC license and sell a Hypercard-like cloud service.

They do sell LC-based server and web hosting actually, but it's overkill
for this. The scripts are so short, and so many LC developers have
access to a server, most just use the built-in capabilities. Opening a
remote stack is a one-liner:

go stack url <url to server file>

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Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque@[redacted].comHyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
[HC] interesting product video
(Msg 11 of 16)
Ambassador <Ambassador@[redacted].com>
Tuesday, 24-Nov-2015 01:23 GMT
If you want to craft a custom app as you could with HyperCard but want to be able to share info across devices via the cloud, you may find this cloud backend for LiveCode worth looking into: http://livecloud.io/ http://livecloud.io/



[HC] interesting product video
(Msg 12 of 16)
jacque <jacque@[redacted].com>
Tuesday, 24-Nov-2015 02:08 GMT
I forgot all about that, and I even have the tee shirt.

On November 23, 2015 7:23:17 PM CST, "Ambassador@[redacted].com[HyperCard]" <HyperCard-Mailing-List> wrote:
>If you want to craft a custom app as you could with HyperCard but want
>to be able to share info across devices via the cloud, you may find
>this cloud backend for LiveCode worth looking into:
>http://livecloud.io/ http://livecloud.io/
>
>

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Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque@[redacted].comHyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
[HC] interesting product video
(Msg 13 of 16)
selander <selander@[redacted].jp>
Thursday, 26-Nov-2015 15:59 GMT
Hi Jacqueline,

Didn't know you could do this with LC. Gave it a try -- cool!

However, how can you save the stack on the server after updating some
data in it? The save command seems to want to only save it locally.

Thanks,

Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan


On 15/11/24 7:43, 'J. Landman Gay' jacque@[redacted].com[HyperCard]
wrote:
> They do sell LC-based server and web hosting actually, but it's overkill
> for this. The scripts are so short, and so many LC developers have
> access to a server, most just use the built-in capabilities. Opening a
> remote stack is a one-liner:
>
> go stack url <url to server file>
>
[HC] interesting product video
(Msg 14 of 16)
coiin <coiin@[redacted].net>
Thursday, 26-Nov-2015 17:02 GMT
LiveCode can put files from one place to another, where one of those places happens to be FTP. This ought to work:

put URL “file:mystack.livecode" into URL "ftp://files.myserver.com/mystack.livecode";


> On Nov 26, 2015, at 10:59 AM, Tim Selander selander@[redacted].attne.jp [HyperCard] <HyperCard-Mailing-List> wrote:
>
> Hi Jacqueline,
>
> Didn't know you could do this with LC. Gave it a try -- cool!
>
> However, how can you save the stack on the server after updating some
> data in it? The save command seems to want to only save it locally.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim Selander
> Tokyo, Japan
>
> On 15/11/24 7:43, 'J. Landman Gay' jacque@[redacted].com<mailto:jacque@[redacted].com [HyperCard]
> wrote:
> > They do sell LC-based server and web hosting actually, but it's overkill
> > for this. The scripts are so short, and so many LC developers have
> > access to a server, most just use the built-in capabilities. Opening a
> > remote stack is a one-liner:
> >
> > go stack url <url to server file>
> >
>
>
>
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